Questions… and Answers

This is an email I recieved from an old friend last weekend. I’m going to post my response here as well, as I think these are good questions that show some more insight into my life/thoughts/faith.

So I noticed you’re into all the Emergent stuff. I’ve been interested in this whole movement for a few years now. I’m always interested to hear why people are moving toward this whole thing.

Out of pure curiosity, what is it that draws you to the movement? How have your views on Christianity changed since you’ve gotten out of highschool? What do you think of the Church and Fundamentalism/Evangelical

ism? Where do you see Christianity in America moving in the next 20 years? What would you like to see change?If you feel like writing a lengthy and in-depth response, I’d appreciate it. I’m not going to quote you or anything, it’s really just out of curiosity and will help me to understand where people are coming from. My own views about Christianity have changed significantly over the past few (I’m more in line with N.T. Wright than anyone else at the moment). I personally think there’s a divide between Fundamentalists and Emergents that needs to be bridged. But anyways, if you’d like to write back with something in-depth, I’d really appreciate it.

Sorry for all the questions out of nowhere, but it’s me :) lol

My Response:

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As I mentioned the other day, I previously posted a bit of my backstory here and here, just in case that offers you any additional insight.

Question 1. What is it that draws you to the movement?

The first thing that comes to mind is the differences between the members in the movement, from backgrounds, to levels of academic achievement, to belief systems all still being held while conversations are fostered. Emergent is normally thought of as a more left (liberal) leaning movement, but that’s not necessarily true, while a large number of those who fall under the title do tend in that direction, I remember being at a cohort meeting with a guy who was still quite conservative, as well as former fundamentalists who found themselves in a middle ground as far as theology goes. The ability to carry on conversation while disagreeing is a very desirable trait to me.

Other aspects that draw me to the movement really revolve around that same theme, openness to differing thought, a desire for justice, and the acceptance of one who questions and doubts.

2. How have your views of Christianity changed since you got out of high school?

In high school I found that I was a full fledged evangelical by Sunday, and something entirely different by weekday, I think you probably saw both sides of me a few years ago. What that dichotomy revolved around was my belief that Christianity was centered around a set of moral codes, and as much as I paid lip service to Christianity being a relationship, not a religion, it was the moral code taught to me by the Church that drove my actions. When I say moral code, I’m implying a set of thou shalts, as in, thou shalt read thine Bible, and thou shalt not drink. Of course the moral code taught to me was far larger than those two examples, the general sense that I was given (in my time in the evangelical church) was that your moral standing depended upon those things, if you didn’t follow it correctly you were either a reprobate, or someone who needed to recommit your life to Christ.

In my opinion, the source of this evangelical line of thought is the idea of the transactional Cross, where because of X then Y must happen. While I would openly admit Christ died for us, and due to our sins, I think the Cross means much more than that. As an example of sacrificial love (that we seem to have lost) and a counterpoint to the idea that violence wins (violence being an idea that we subscribe to en mass), that as a basis for faith changes things.

I’m not quite sure if you want me to get into a doctrine by doctrine dissection of my beliefs here, and I’m not sure that would be entirely helpful as I claim no absolute certainty in any of them (yet still place faith in them). If you want to know about any specific doctrines or whatever, just shoot me another message and I’ll try to etch of what I feel about it.

3. What do you think of the Church and Fundamentalism/Evangelicalism?

I’m going to touch on the second part first. I want to draw a distinction between Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism here, as many I know would not. You may remember I spent my freshman year attending a fundamentalist school, and that has largely shaped my opinion of fundamentalism as a whole. Simply put, I have very little love for fundamentalism, while their beliefs may be held out of sincerity and piety, the amount of angry judgementalism that they dole out is too much for me.

As to evangelicalism, I’m a harsh critic of it/them. I think the reason for the criticism is simply that Evangelicalism is the tradition from which I came. While I can appreciate the heart behind the evangelical idea of “spreading the gospel” I don’t think where they have landed falls in line with what Jesus intended. Selling “Fire Insurance” and using fear tactics isn’t quite what I see when I read the gospels. My heart melts a little when I see (from some evangelicals) a raw and true filling of emotion when someone “Comes to Christ,” and it’s at that time that I can appreciate the movement at a higher level. However, in general I think that evangelicalism is a detrimental force on the church. The idea of prosteltyzing another to conform exactly to your views hearkens far too close to colonialism, which never works out well for the imperials, nor the colonized.

As for the church, I think I have a quote from Augustine that grasps my opinion… “The church is a whore, but she is my mother.” Simply put, we have sold out. While the remain lights in the darkness, we have embraced the damaging and damning aspects represented in the world. Things like consumerism, colonialism, greed, and an acceptance of violence stop the church from carrying on any sort of work of Justice, love, or peace. From my view, the Christ came to the broken, the needy, and the margins, basically those which the church loves to ignore.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll restate it now, if Christianity were to lose hegemony, it would be the most beneficial thing that has happened to the Church in 1970ish years.

4. Where do you see Christianity in America moving in the next 20 years?

Really, I see Emergent gaining hegemony within Christianity. That’s probably not a good thing for the movement, but will likely positively influence the Church as a whole. I’m probably not good at predicting the future, so I’ll stop there. Well… I’ll say this, I can see the trend towards post-modernism (post-colonialism as well) beginning to run deeper, I don’t think the movement that way can really be stopped. I don’t really know much beyond that.

5. What would you like to see change?

Well, mainly, I’d like to see an acceptance of “the other.” I said earlier that Emergent was attractive because of it’s diversity, and I think if the church embraced that ideal a lot of wounds would begin to heal. Other change’s I’d like to see are really too numerous to go into here, perhaps another email for another day?

I hope this is what you were looking for, if you want me to go into anything deeper, pushback on anything, or really anything at all shoot me another message. Perhaps we could go for a nice glass of Fosters somewhere and talk about it all.

-Matt

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  • Ok, now that intense debate seems to be working, I'll respond (Fourth time I have written this response!).

    Fosters was a bit of a joke that the person I was writing to would have appreciated. You're never suppose to include inside jokes in public pieces, but I really don't blog that properly anyways.
    As to beer preferences, give me a stout or really any microbrew and I'll be happy. (I'm half tempted to make a side bar status that lists my current beer, I try to find a new one every few weeks or so).
  • Jim Scott
    Matt,
    It is rather disturbing you picture the entire "church" as this unmoving uncaring entity. You state the "church" as not engaged in appeals for justice, love and peace. I suggest to you that there is much response on the part of the church in these areas if you seek them out. Somehow you have confused these issues with the church's primary role; to teach the truth of the Gospel of Christ to all nations. This was the great commission imposed upon the church by Christ. If we fail in that, all the peaceful intentions and loving kindness we share with everyone is for nothing.

    Likewise, the history of the church reveals that Christians from the beginning cared much for those less fortunate in this world. The church was the creator of the hospital for example.

    You paint with too broad a brush, me thinks.
  • ah. Ok.. You're forgiven. And, for the record, the Guinness certainly tastes better in Ireland.

    The OpenID bit of your intenseDebate is still screwed up.
  • Fosters? Fosters? I'm really hoping that's not the Australian Amber Nectar you're talking about.
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